Why Does Buying a New Car Still Have to Be So Painful?

Even in today’s marketplace of increased pricing transparency thanks to the Internet, when businesses talk a lot about building strong, trusting relationships with customers, shopping for a car can be a confusing and torturous experience. Today’s consumers have little reason to believe anything that a car salesman says; to be inside a car dealership and accept any bit of information at face value is to be a sucker. Why is it that consumers are still subjected to the old games played in car dealerships, where phrases like “below invoice” and “our best price” essentially mean nothing. Why is it that even when you get the car you want at the price you want, you still wind up driving off with an awful taste in your mouth, disgusted with the entire process?

For the most part, this has always been the way cars have been sold. The Saturn brand was an exception in that, for a while at least, it had a no-haggle, no-hassle sales policy—one that I and many other consumers appreciated. As I wrote before, with a Saturn:

You knew what you were getting, you knew what you’d pay, and you were happy about both. Why is that such a rare thing?

Now, Saturn and its sales policies are long gone, and what we’re left with are the same old games played by the car dealerships, although now they’re complicated—often to the benefit of consumers, though not always—by the process of getting quotes from multiple dealerships on the Internet.

Freakonomics’ Steven D. Levitt describes his recent frustrations with “The New-Car Mating Dance” while he shopped for a minivan with his family. Here’s the scene as he sat down with a salesman:

He explained to me that the price they were offering was well below invoice, discreetly showing me some pricing documents stamped “confidential,” emphasizing how much money they were going to lose on the car. I replied that he knew as well as I did that the invoice price he was quoting me was not what the dealership paid for the car.

On and on the dance went until Levitt walked out, only to go off to another dealership where the price was $1,300 cheaper. Was that really the best price possible? Who knows? But the experience was certainly unpleasant for both the shopper and the seller. The shopper thinks the sellers are jerks for playing games and not being upfront or straight-up lying, while the sellers think the shopper is a jerk for jerking them around and playing one dealership off another. The result is that everyone feels played. You have to really love new-car smell to not be irritated by the whole situation.

I guess what it comes down to is this statement, offered by Patricia Marx in this week’s New Yorker (subscription necessary):

A friend of mine who has bought a lot of cars sums it up like this: customers are liars, salesmen are bigger liars, and sales managers are the biggest liars of all.

Some basis for building a trusting business relationship, huh?

Related Topics: cars, Freakonomics, haggling, negotiation, Saturn, Saving & Spending, Uncategorized
  • carwoo

    This is exactly why we built http://www.carwoo.com Car buying sucks and we are fixing it.

  • monty63

    Why is that a customer has access to the dealer invoice anyway? Why don’t car dealers just sell the cars at the list price?

    What other product can you go on the internet and find out what the retailer paid for their products and offer them to but for that price? I can’t find that find that info on a TV or Dryer?

    How come I can’t take my old TV into BestBuy and demand that they give me money for it so I can get the price of the TV reduced and then tell them I know that you only paid $2675.32 for that TV and the price you have listed is $3900, so I will give you $2600 for it and I need you to give me at least $800 for my old one here?

    So according to Mr Tuttle a dealer should go ahead and sell their products at huge discounts (Actual fact – Average margin of profit on a new vehicle 3.2%), 3% margin is good? What is the markup on clothes, jewelry, food.. let’s start to demand the same discounts on everything, let’s demand that manufactures and retailers give the consumer the invoice price. Come on that’s fair isn’t it?

  • http://www.ai-dealer.com bhoecht

    Offloading the steps involved in buying a car (via carwoo) is one what to go. That is called curbstoning or brokering and is illegal in several states.

    I can’t speak to Carwoo, but there are good and bad eggs out there.

    Gross margins on cars are pretty slim and so don’t usually support having another layer of expense (i.e. the broker presumably gets paid for his value add).

    But there is hope. Some car dealers are putting the entire car buying process (including price, financing, trade ins, and payments) online with a consumer self-serve model. Here is some press on it.

    http://wbztv.com/consumer/Online.car.sales.2.762885.html

    And you can see it in action here

    http://www.doengeschoice.com (look for the shopping cart)

    The service is brought to you by http://www.ai-dealer.com (my company).

    Yes it works. Yes it is in production. Yes it sells cars for the dealers who have it. Yes it is a good attraction message for them to use in their advertising.

    And as you’ll hear consumer Ashley Marshall say in the CBS news story via the link above… a complete online process doesn’t suck… she’ll tell you that she used to buy a car once every 10 years not because she couldn’t afford it, but because she disliked the experience so much.

    Now that she understands how it works, she doesn’t feel that way any more.

    The big questions are: how will dealers fit ecommerce process transparency into how (some not all of them) do business? Which method will sell more cars?

    Ah, the spirit of innovation and the smell of change.

  • Brad Tuttle

    I’m actually all for dealers making a decent profit and selling their cars at list price — but at a fair list price. That’s how Saturn used to do it, right? What’s frustrating is that the sticker price means nothing: Dealers don’t really expect to sell cars for that price, so why is it even there? As things stand, it is foolish to trust a car salesman, and it is financially irresponsible to not haggle. This is the system, and it is designed not by consumers but by manufacturers and car dealerships. Car dealers have it in their power to offer fair, no-haggle prices to car buyers, but they choose not to. Instead, they prefer to sucker some buyers into paying way more than is necessary, while hoping that these profits outweigh the cars they sell to smarter consumers at little or no profit, or even a loss. Again, consumers don’t dictate that this is how business must be done. Consumers don’t have the power to dictate how any business chooses to operate. The sellers created this system, and they could change it if they wanted to — and a change would be welcomed by many consumers.

  • carwoo

    Just to clarify. CarWoo! is not a broker. We let buyers and dealers work together on our site to work out a deal on their own. The car buyer gets to remain anonymous and work with multiple dealers from the comfort of their home without the high pressure environment of being in the dealership.

    Most consumers shop multiple dealers, we make it easier for them to make the right car buying decision without having to worry about being pressured into something they don’t want.

    http://www.carwoo.com

  • ljorden203

    For whoever out there who prefers used cars but don’t enjoy the car buying process, check out Carsala. They take care of everything for you, and people love them. Check them out at carsala.com.

  • howardt5

    I skipped the dealer games completely by using http://www.truecar.com Got my new F-150 supercab for way below blue book

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